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El Beaner 03-21-2014 12:10 PM

Has anyone tried the OTS plus map(s)?
 
Well since I won't be doing a DP/TP for a while(probably tax/bonus time next year) I wanted to look into getting a better map than the COBB OTS POS they have.

Just wanted to see how much of a difference it made(and I know there has to be a difference cause it's got to be better than the COBB OTS tunes).

atvfreek 03-21-2014 12:12 PM

There are a bunch of people on these right now. You get a base map for your mods, then a supplemental revision in which I am able to get 80% or so of the power of a full tune in those revisions, plus the maf cal is dialed in.

El Beaner 03-21-2014 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by atvfreek (Post 2506133)
There are a bunch of people on these right now. You get a base map for your mods, then a supplemental revision in which I am able to get 80% or so of the power of a full tune in those revisions, plus the maf cal is dialed in.

That's why I'm looking at Freektune OTS vs Stratified OTS - I like the idea of the revision to make it just that little bit better.

Are there any Dyno/VDyno comparisons posted yet?

SpeedEngineer 03-21-2014 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by El Beaner (Post 2506143)
That's why I'm looking at Freektune OTS vs Stratified OTS - I like the idea of the revision to make it just that little bit better.

Are there any Dyno/VDyno comparisons posted yet?

dyno differences between these two maps will be very minimal if not the same - both are great tuners and are offering a solution to have a drive-able car that you can have a little fun on with whatever supporting mods you have

Freek does offer a revision with along with a sudo custom map for whatever mods you have

Lex offers an ots map that will support your mods with the idea that you get a pro-tune from him which he will then discount the money paid for the ots map

Both are amazing but you shouldn't worry about dyno numbers with an ots map

They will be better and safer than the COBB ots as it will be more tailored to you

Justin@Freektune 03-21-2014 12:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SpeedEngineer (Post 2506154)
dyno differences between these two maps will be very minimal if not the same - both are great tuners and are offering a solution to have a drive-able car that you can have a little fun on with whatever supporting mods you have

Freek does offer a revision with along with a sudo custom map for whatever mods you have

Lex offers an ots map that will support your mods with the idea that you get a pro-tune from him which he will then discount the money paid for the ots map

Both are amazing but you shouldn't worry about dyno numbers with an ots map

They will be better and safer than the COBB ots as it will be more tailored to you

This is quite a bit more than what your average OTS map would be. Seeing several datalogs and having that supplemental revision picks up quite a bit of power. I will gather a couple VD's up

SpeedEngineer 03-21-2014 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Justin@Freektune (Post 2506159)
This is quite a bit more than what your average OTS map would be. Seeing several datalogs and having that supplemental revision picks up quite a bit of power. I will gather a couple VD's up

Well i think that answers his question right there your sudo OTS maps where you revise it per what that particular car is doing is an awesome solution

Justin@Freektune 03-21-2014 12:31 PM

I'm really glad I decided to go with the supplemental revision, and monitoring datalogs too, because two people with gen1's had bad primary o2 sensors, and didn't even know it and one had a bad ebcs and wasn't hitting any boost. Straight up one revision and out into the wild would have never seen that :)

Justin@Freektune 03-21-2014 12:35 PM

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This is a stage2 OTS-plus I just finished :)

El Beaner 03-21-2014 12:50 PM

Ok that settles it. I'll be going FreekTune OTS. Looking on your site, pretuning checks say to change plugs after 15k miles so gonna have to do this next week since I have to pick up some plugs(have 26K miles on the car now).

Justin@Freektune 03-21-2014 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by El Beaner (Post 2506213)
Ok that settles it. I'll be going FreekTune OTS. Looking on your site, pretuning checks say to change plugs after 15k miles so gonna have to do this next week since I have to pick up some plugs(have 26K miles on the car now).

Sounds good sir. Just let me know when you are ready to go.

El Beaner 03-21-2014 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Justin@Freektune (Post 2506257)
Sounds good sir. Just let me know when you are ready to go.

Would you recommend stock heat range plugs or go one step colder for your tunes?

Justin@Freektune 03-21-2014 02:51 PM

Has anyone tried the OTS plus map(s)?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by El Beaner (Post 2506378)
Would you recommend stock heat range plugs or go one step colder for your tunes?


Stock heat range is perfectly fine and runs best in most k04 cars

SpeedEngineer 03-21-2014 02:58 PM

Even for an e85 tune? Just to verify

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Cheapspeed 03-21-2014 03:02 PM

I put my step colders in right before tuning, and they were covered in black soot with less than 100 miles on them.

I'm back to stock heat, and I'm going to stay with stock heat during my ethanol tune.

squilliam 03-21-2014 03:20 PM

could i get a 50/50 e85 ots plus map?

El Beaner 03-21-2014 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by squilliam (Post 2506443)
could i get a 50/50 e85 ots plus map?

Nope, on his site it clearly states OTS maps are 91/93 octane only maps. For E85, you're probably better off with a full tune

Justin@Freektune 03-21-2014 04:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by squilliam (Post 2506443)
could i get a 50/50 e85 ots plus map?


Unfortunately We can't dial that in within two maps so a full tune would be needed.

OverBoosted 03-21-2014 06:13 PM

I was considering this but after this thread I will be placing my order in the next day or two. Cant wait.

OverBoosted 03-22-2014 11:27 AM

Any idea when the OTS + tunes will be available? Want to make sure I get in the next round .

Justin@Freektune 03-22-2014 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by OverBoosted (Post 2507405)
Any idea when the OTS + tunes will be available? Want to make sure I get in the next round .


I will be putting more in stock Monday. Just need the weekend to get caught up :)

OverBoosted 03-22-2014 12:34 PM

Sounds good. I'll be signing up on Monday. :wiggle:

Johnasaurus 03-23-2014 11:53 AM

Are these maps going to be locked? I know the stratified OTS and OTS+ maps are locked. Im wondering because if I had a code unchecked and come inspection time I were to uncheck the code and legalize the car for an afternoon would this be a possible option. Or would it be easier to have a map that would be good for an inspection and just flash/reflash when the inspection is finished?

mrshoulders 03-23-2014 12:49 PM

why get a ots tune instead of a custom one?

SHADY1 03-23-2014 01:53 PM

Yea, seen the comment about ebcs. I just installed this upgrade and was running well prior 20 psi, now I can not hold boost above ~16psi. Now I did read on this site that if you add this upgrade you should cut WGDC by 50%, work your way back up until you hit boost targets.

So I have stepped the WGDC back up some and sturggled betwee ~14 and ~16 psi. I will leak check, however after that I may need some help.:ugh:

(Autotech, Turbo BacK 3" High Flow Cat, Injen CAI, Corksport TIH, Cobb FMIC, TurboXS Hybrid BOV, K04 with billet /port and polished, Cobb 3 port EBCS, AP V3,)

El Beaner 03-23-2014 02:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrshoulders (Post 2508470)
why get a ots tune instead of a custom one?

Mainly for those of us not wanting a full tune yet and want something a lot better than the Cobb ots tunes at a fraction of the price of a full tune.

I'll be buying my tune this coming week, my plugs should be here Monday

Johnasaurus 03-23-2014 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrshoulders (Post 2508470)
why get a ots tune instead of a custom one?

I have changed my mind about going big turbo and really building this car. Other projects that need my attention. This seems like a happy medium between just a cobb map thats been modified by the user and a full blown tune. Something with a more reliability, safety, power at a good cost.

Justin@Freektune 03-23-2014 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by El Beaner (Post 2508562)
Mainly for those of us not wanting a full tune yet and want something a lot better than the Cobb ots tunes at a fraction of the price of a full tune.

I'll be buying my tune this coming week, my plugs should be here Monday



Quote:

Originally Posted by Johnasaurus (Post 2508568)
I have changed my mind about going big turbo and really building this car. Other projects that need my attention. This seems like a happy medium between just a cobb map thats been modified by the user and a full blown tune. Something with a more reliability, safety, power at a good cost.


That's exactly why I opted to offer this. There are people that don't want or need a full tune. Better than an OTS map with much better boost control, dialed in maf and a few freeky touches :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Johnasaurus (Post 2508411)
Are these maps going to be locked? I know the stratified OTS and OTS+ maps are locked. Im wondering because if I had a code unchecked and come inspection time I were to uncheck the code and legalize the car for an afternoon would this be a possible option. Or would it be easier to have a map that would be good for an inspection and just flash/reflash when the inspection is finished?


Unless you have egr delete as well as a dp. You should have no issue with emissions testing.

But yes all my maps are locked now. Too many people started using my maps to make maps for other people

SHADY1 03-23-2014 02:40 PM

Ok, I leak checked finding that my BOV (TurboXS hybrid) has leak between hard mount flange and BOV body! meaning the BOV is crap and the EBCS has a small leak at the #2 barb fitting connection at the valve body.

Im sure these affect the tune however system supports 20psi prior to leaking. I believe I will need new BOV, Fix leak at EBCS and tune support.

SHADY1 03-23-2014 05:00 PM

Ok, found 3 bolts on Bov that mounts housing to flange loose. Tighend and this fixed BOV leak. Got one turn on EBCS port #2 and this fixed that leak. Guess I will attempt tuning again.

Now leak tight and will attempt tuning the EBCS again. Can freaktune possible help?? I have multipe data logs currently and will get a follow-up in the morning. I think maybe I will give it a try.

SHADY1 03-23-2014 05:56 PM

Justine,
freektune can help??? do you have anything to say??

El Beaner 03-23-2014 07:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SHADY1 (Post 2508878)
Justine,
freektune can help??? do you have anything to say??

First off, it's Justin not Justine

Second this thread was about seeing who was running ots maps and their impressions of those maps, if you need Tuning help go to the ecu Tuning section for your best bet on help.

Cheapspeed 03-23-2014 07:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by El Beaner (Post 2508970)
First off, it's Justin not Justine

Second this thread was about seeing who was running ots maps and their impressions of those maps, if you need Tuning help go to the ecu Tuning section for your best bet on help.

Plus I know Freek is swamped with paying customers right now. Shady needs to calm the fuck down.

SpeedEngineer 03-23-2014 07:19 PM

Dude you're in the wrong thread and if you're looking for a free tune you are poorly mistaken man.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SHADY1 (Post 2508878)
Justine,
freektune can help??? do you have anything to say??

You're doing a pooooor job trolling.

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swsmailman 03-24-2014 01:49 AM

I'm debating going with either a full tune or just a OTS tube from Freek. I need something besides this Cobb OTS tube I got, I get into boost way to quick with the new DP. Won't be able to do a FMIC for a while, but may get a ETS TMIC depending on if I can sell some things, decisions decisions.


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scapone4 03-24-2014 05:11 AM

Question,

Like the Stratified OTS Plus, the $$ goes towards a tune if you get a custom tune down the line. Is it the same for the freektune?

El Beaner 03-24-2014 07:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by swsmailman (Post 2509286)
I'm debating going with either a full tune or just a OTS tube from Freek. I need something besides this Cobb OTS tube I got, I get into boost way to quick with the new DP. Won't be able to do a FMIC for a while, but may get a ETS TMIC depending on if I can sell some things, decisions decisions.


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If the answer to the question below is a yes, then you might want to just go with the OTS at first and see if that solves some issues. If a No, then I'd say go full tune. Personally if I had a DP/TP I'd go full tune to get all the benefits of it. Remember you can always do a fluff tune when you add any parts down the road.

Quote:

Originally Posted by scapone4 (Post 2509324)
Question,

Like the Stratified OTS Plus, the $$ goes towards a tune if you get a custom tune down the line. Is it the same for the freektune?


swsmailman 03-24-2014 08:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by El Beaner (Post 2509436)
If the answer to the question below is a yes, then you might want to just go with the OTS at first and see if that solves some issues. If a No, then I'd say go full tune. Personally if I had a DP/TP I'd go full tune to get all the benefits of it. Remember you can always do a fluff tune when you add any parts down the road.

More than likely just going to go the full custom one now since I have everything pretty much except for a upgraded IC, then when I get one later on I will just do a revise. No point in spending the money for an OTS when I know I am going to get a custom one hopefully this year.

SHADY1 03-24-2014 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SpeedEngineer (Post 2508988)
Dude you're in the wrong thread and if you're looking for a free tune you are poorly mistaken man.

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You're doing a pooooor job trolling.

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HHum?? a poor job trolling for a paid service???? Really!!! To many tuning services to be talking crap. Or at least I was under the assumption that Freektune was in the business of selling this type of servce. Now if you have little experience in tuning the EBCS in I understand. Free was never the question since freektune is a business!! The question was do you have experience in this upgrade tuning and do you believe you can help if I purchase the service?

Best of luck!

SpeedEngineer 03-24-2014 11:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SHADY1 (Post 2509835)
HHum?? a poor job trolling for a paid service???? Really!!! To many tuning services to be talking crap.

Best of luck!

Seems like you're the one that needs the luck my friend

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SHADY1 03-24-2014 11:24 AM

No luck needed! I have done this many times and Cobb is happy for the extra business.

Maybe freektune is not, but as stated before to many providers to be talking crap!!!


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