Hypertech Tuning Device

[holeinmypocket]

anyone heard anything about this?

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YouTube - Mazdaspeed 3 (Mexico) Dyno - Stock ECU vs Hypertech Sport Programmer

YouTube - Mazdaspeed 3 (Mexico) Dyno - Stock ECU vs Hypertech Sport Programmer

[FreeFlyFreak]

Originally Posted by holeinmypocket anyone heard anything about this? Mazda3Online :: ProtegeGarage :: MazdaRX8Online - Your Source for Mazda Performance YouTube - Mazdaspeed 3 (Mexico) Dyno - Stock ECU vs Hypertech Sport Programmer

Yeah there are a couple threads here about it.

Ganque or something like that username

[Enki]

See Hypertech vs Stock mexican ECU .

[ANMSPD3]

Yea was over on the other MS3 forum reading up on this seems like a good solution But can not find a price?? Anyone here using this??

[ANMSPD3]

Jumped off the bridge an bought it? Will see it tomorrow as it had free OVN.

[meicalnissyen]

Originally Posted by ANMSPD3 Jumped off the bridge an bought it? Will see it tomorrow as it had free OVN.

here is a DH shot 4rth gear 60-80

[Ms3speed]

Originally Posted by meicalnissyen here is a DH shot 4rth gear 60-80

Your fuel preassure looks great! what mods do you have? and also boost is holding very well

Originally Posted by AllLostThings Ok I'm kind of sold on one of these now. Here are my mods... -CS Intake/Inlet -Forge BPV -ETS 3.5 TMIC -TurboXS Race Pipe -TRZ DogBone Motor Mount -JBarone Shift Plate -DashHawk Is getting this a wise move? I've been concerned about upgrading my fuel pump. If I do this tune am I more likely to blow something? Thanks for any help. Oh and I also woudl like to do an upgraded stock turbo eventually. Is that possible with this tune?

Your mods are pretty much perfect for the hypertech and with your Ets tmic it should help lean out your afr alittle so its not piggy rich, Im running a fmic and my afr is normal at idle and hits between 11.8-12.0 at wot but most people running near stock are seeing more towards 11.0-11.5 at wot wich is kinda rich but safe.

[no1uno]

I hope you guys aren't getting kickbacks from Hypertech. Everything sounds great. I just had a moment of weakness and placed an order for one of these little miracles. Hope I don't regret it...

[AequitasVeritas]

Originally Posted by no1uno I hope you guys aren't getting kickbacks from Hypertech. Everything sounds great. I just had a moment of weakness and placed an order for one of these little miracles. Hope I don't regret it...

No sir. I was a beta tester and I truly love it.

[AllLostThings]

Originally Posted by no1uno I hope you guys aren't getting kickbacks from Hypertech. Everything sounds great. I just had a moment of weakness and placed an order for one of these little miracles. Hope I don't regret it...

Yeah I placed my order right after saying I'd wait a week. Took my motorcycle out and got an email while I was out saying my order had shipped already! I'm guessing I'll have it by mid week! Based on what I've read here I'm really excited about this. I"ll post some feedback for sure once I get it.

[ANMSPD3]

Very easing quote from Chris at Hyper Tech

Here's the basics on how it works:

The Max Energy Sport is a programmer. It plugs into the diagnostic port, and reflashes the car's ECU with the Hypertech tuning files. It stores a copy of the stock calibration files for that vehicle, so that it can be returned to stock at any time. The programmer doesn't stay plugged in, and doesn't have any PID monitoring functions. It will read and clear DTC's. It has options to raise the top speed limiter, and raise or lower the engine rev limiter.

Every product that Hypertech sells is 50-state emission legal. The tuning for the Mazda vehicles is currently pending CARB certification, and will be 50 state legal when the certification procedure is complete. All of our products are designed to work in the limits of the vehicle as designed by the OEM. Our tuning will not void your factory warranty, or cause damage to any factory engine, drivetrain, or emission component covered under your factory warranty.

Since we advertise and sell our products to be warranty safe and emission legal, we don't offer any custom tuning options in our programmer.

You do not have to have any knowledge of tuning to use our products.

We leave the boost cut and load cut limiters in place in our tuning to protect the engine from a mechanical failure that may cause destruction if these limiters are removed. With the air mass calculations correctly measured, these limits can be used just like the factory tuning uses them.

Thanks.

Chris

[86AmishMs3]

Originally Posted by ANMSPD3 Very easing quote from Chris at Hyper Tech Here's the basics on how it works: The Max Energy Sport is a programmer. It plugs into the diagnostic port, and reflashes the car's ECU with the Hypertech tuning files. It stores a copy of the stock calibration files for that vehicle, so that it can be returned to stock at any time. The programmer doesn't stay plugged in, and doesn't have any PID monitoring functions. It will read and clear DTC's. It has options to raise the top speed limiter, and raise or lower the engine rev limiter. Every product that Hypertech sells is 50-state emission legal. The tuning for the Mazda vehicles is currently pending CARB certification, and will be 50 state legal when the certification procedure is complete. All of our products are designed to work in the limits of the vehicle as designed by the OEM. Our tuning will not void your factory warranty, or cause damage to any factory engine, drivetrain, or emission component covered under your factory warranty. Since we advertise and sell our products to be warranty safe and emission legal, we don't offer any custom tuning options in our programmer. You do not have to have any knowledge of tuning to use our products. We leave the boost cut and load cut limiters in place in our tuning to protect the engine from a mechanical failure that may cause destruction if these limiters are removed. With the air mass calculations correctly measured, these limits can be used just like the factory tuning uses them. Thanks. Chris

I can haz the bolded statement from Mazda North America in writing?

[smakdown61]

Originally Posted by 86azms3 I can haz the bolded statement from Mazda North America in writing?

Or the statement from hypertech stating they will provide legal support to you when mazda does void your warranty.

[holeinmypocket]

so it's load based tuning then? fail

[ms3077]

Originally Posted by holeinmypocket so it's load based tuning then? fail

+ 54WHP for $400 bucks looks more like WIN if you ask me.

[Haltech]

54 HP... i will dispel this myth is Chris is a believer and sends us one... So far, he is hesitant on doing so...

That means the Hypertech module makes more hp then the AP and SB combined. I call horseshit on this.

[Speed freak]

Originally Posted by Haltech 54 HP... i will dispel this myth is Chris is a believer and sends us one... So far, he is hesitant on doing so... That means the Hypertech module makes more hp then the AP and SB combined. I call horseshit on this.

The dyno sheet I seen was HP at red line not under the curve so I think thats why it gained 54 hp. Hypertech probably put in more R&D than Cobb and CPE combined thats just my opinion though.

[smakdown61]

Originally Posted by Speed freak The dyno sheet I seen was HP at red line not under the curve so I think thats why it gained 54 hp. Hypertech probably put in more R&D than Cobb and CPE combined thats just my opinion though.

Not likely considering it can't do half of what the SB and AP allow you to do. OTS maps are worthless on this car.

[ms3077]

Originally Posted by smakdown61 Not likely considering it can't do half of what the SB and AP allow you to do. OTS maps are worthless on this car.

OTS aren't "worthless" for my car, it gained a significant about of power especially after 6k RPMS. Not to mention the sharper throttle response.

Too bad mine doesn't work anymore.

[92 Couper]

Well I thought the car felt pretty good after adding the Hypertech programming so I decided to take it to a local shop and see what she would put down on the dyno. It was a Dynojet 224 and it was 80+ degrees outside. I did pulls in both 4th and 5th gear and the results were about the same. Car made 278 whp and 308 lb-ft.

Not bad for a 2008.5 MS3 sport with Cobb SRI, PG TIP, eBay test pipe, forge BPV and Hypertech programmer.

[www.cp-e.com]

Originally Posted by Speed freak The dyno sheet I seen was HP at red line not under the curve so I think thats why it gained 54 hp. Hypertech probably put in more R&D than Cobb and CPE combined thats just my opinion though.

Here ya go.

[Enki]

My boss might be able to get me one wholesale. If that happens (and he lets me make payments on it ), I'll post before and after dynos.

[SpeedSixxx]

how much?

[Enki]

Dunno, still waiting to hear back. Probably close to half, though. Got quoted for 350 on a Magnaflow catback, which made me die a little inside.

[GoSpeed3Go]

yeah they have 2 dyno sheets on 247 that includes a dyno with an intake and exhaust that shows nice gains but im gonna take the wait and see approach myself.

[ANMSPD3]

Well the install was a breeze, Had to download the update on my PC first then to the tuner, Then the flash to the car took all of 4 mins. Frist impressions are good, Part throttle defintly feels better pulls a lot harder, I actually got torque steer preety hard in 2nd. Up top pulls good I pulled to 6k, and still felt strong. I really dont think I will be up that high to often, I will stay around 5500-5600. I did not change my rev limiter at all, Just removed the 0-60 throttle and picked the Cork Sport intake for my cobb. Will have to drive some more..

[boostntomuch]

now i have a 2007 ms6 with and intake, bov, and corksport downpipe. do you still think this tune will be ok for my car. ?

[802MS3]

they say the tunes are not made for a an aftermarket exhaust, except for cat-back. They say its because they wouldn't be able to sell it in CA if they were promoting modifying emissions equipment. Then how does Cobb and CP-e do it? I call BS.

[ANMSPD3]

OK guys just made an appointment for a before and after Dyno run on Saturday( IF my plugs come on Thursday). I have presently removed the Hypertech till the plugs come.. I HAVE not had any issues just being extra careful. I know the Hypertech raised the boost to 18PSI and want to drop a heat range to be safe.. Side note where the hell to gap these. I have seen anywhere from 28-40 on here. EHH that's a huge difference.

[GoSpeed3Go]

dude fucking stop it already. lol

[ANMSPD3]

Ok over all impression. 1st is insane, and second gear you have to fight the wheel a bit to keep it strait.. Plus I'm seeing 20 PSI all the way to 6200k or so. I made some runs yesterday and got caught looking at the boost instead of the RPMS and was over 6k before I shifted( Almost 6500 OPPPSSS)..!!! Car pulls CRAZY hard reminds me ove my 11 sec EVO.. Not saying its that fast but pulls very hard..

OK getting the the A/F readings. I did some pulls a watch the A/F's- The all where right around 10.8-10.5 which I think is perfect. The Stock A/F was at 11.3.

[fastdreams]

Originally Posted by ANMSPD3 Ok over all impression. 1st is insane, and second gear you have to fight the wheel a bit to keep it strait.. Plus I'm seeing 20 PSI all the way to 6200k or so. I made some runs yesterday and got caught looking at the boost instead of the RPMS and was over 6k before I shifted( Almost 6500 OPPPSSS)..!!! Car pulls CRAZY hard reminds me ove my 11 sec EVO.. Not saying its that fast but pulls very hard.. OK getting the the A/F readings. I did some pulls a watch the A/F's- The all where right around 10.8-10.5 which I think is perfect. The Stock A/F was at 11.3.

Did you get the before and after dyno pulls? That would help lend some legitamacy to this OTS tune.

[8.5MS3]

wait wait, you think running that fat is a good thing?

[ANMSPD3]

Originally Posted by fastdreams Did you get the before and after dyno pulls? That would help lend some legitamacy to this OTS tune.

No not yet plugs did not come till Saturday. I so I did not go, I am trying for this weekend but most likely not( Working) But I have the 30th off, I know its a while away bit thats what works for me.

[www.cp-e.com]

They did more research than us? Heh. They contacted us about a few products. These off the shelf type maps will NEVER be as good as a real tuning solution. If anyone would like to come do a comparo I will do it on our dyno and have the two car do back to back runs. I will even allow the hypertech one to be done first so the standback pull is heatsoaked haha.

[ganque]

Originally Posted by www.cp-e.com They did more research than us? Heh. They contacted us about a few products. These off the shelf type maps will NEVER be as good as a real tuning solution. If anyone would like to come do a comparo I will do it on our dyno and have the two car do back to back runs. I will even allow the hypertech one to be done first so the standback pull is heatsoaked haha.

Hypertech did contact you to ask you for your intake models to add a special tune for them on their maps.

I think the have been really friendly with competition. They haven't been rude with no one and they are just trying to offer another option for enthusiasts, yes CP-E and Cobb have more time doing this but that doesn't mean someone else can also make a shot.

I always say this: If you dont risk, you don't win.

[vivid240]

Originally Posted by www.cp-e.com They did more research than us? Heh. They contacted us about a few products. These off the shelf type maps will NEVER be as good as a real tuning solution. If anyone would like to come do a comparo I will do it on our dyno and have the two car do back to back runs. I will even allow the hypertech one to be done first so the standback pull is heatsoaked haha.

Jesus christ, how do you ever get anything done down there when it seems you spend your entire day talking down anything that might be competition to you saying the shit can't work because it's not yours? get your head out of your ass. This is absolutely perfect for the average owner on the street to plug in, get some extra ponies, not have downtime from sending their ecu for the magical flash that removes the wall when the planets align on the x-y axis during a solar eclipse in the middle of winter in russia. Thankfully... you guys are the only ones that know anything about it..... dot dot dot

Why don't you just step back and let products talk for themselves. I see some actual dynos of very good gains on mildly modded ms3's for 4 minutes of a reflash, not 3 days of shipping and staring at the car. Sounds like an absolute win to me.

If it makes you feel better though... we're very happy with the cp-e products we've used so far. This tag bracket is absolutely wonderful and keeps the air flow clean through the front bumper. Thank you, as without it, we could possibly run into overheating issues or higher charge air temps with a piece of metal and numbers embossed into it blocking our progress. It is absolutely unmatched for craftsmanship and design in ways to affix a license plate to a vehicle.

Oh, one more thing. I will say thank you for the compliments on the turbo setup. As for the rest of the setup though, don't worry about it because it's all easily under control. I'm actually the one that's led this buildup, not adam who was at school for 85% of it. He's involved but definitely doesn't have a complete grasp on how this is going, so your 'concern' is duly noted, but not needed, thanks. (I woulda put this over in that thread but thanks to adam I'm 'removed from that discussion' now... I mean I'm only the guy that built it)

-Jeff

[ANMSPD3]

??? Who said that???

[dizzin9]

nice, let's diss the other guys and pull the bs card on them...

[www.cp-e.com]

In no way am I bashing Hypertech. They were a pleasure to speak with on the phone. They are doing something completely different than the standback. They are offering a tune that is not tuneable to the end user. You simply plug it in - flash - and then unplug and go on your way. This is not a tune that you will ever make big numbers with. It is not a tune you could use with a big turbo that will allow you to go and get it dialed in.

My comments were directed towards the R&D question. Competition is what drives us to do our best work.